Bukovsky warns of EU Dictatorship [AU
& NAU]Source: email from South Africa.Wednesday,
July 18, 2007Former Soviet Dissident Warns
Of EU Dictatorship
This is an especially insightful interview with a famous
Soviet Dissident Vladimir Bukovksy who warns of the dangers of the EU. Implicit
in this warning is a similar warning regarding the ugly siblings, the North American
Union, and the African Union.
Note that the important thing is that these
groups must integrate into the financial institutions of the world, such as Gatt,
the IMF and the World Bank. Note too how the privitisation initiative introduced
by Thatcher provided the impetus to the left wing and the Soviet, to go into the
EU.
In SA and Africa generally, privitisation is resulting in the rapacious
plundering of national assets by the Oppenheimers and other multinational corporations,
especially those controlled by the Rothschilds. However, note also, that these
same corporations along with the UN and international financial organisations
are the major impetus behind the AU. Significant too, is the warning that "the
European Commission looks like the Politburo. I mean it does so exactly, except
for the fact that the Commission now has 25 members and the Politburo usually
had 13 or 15 members. Apart from that they are exactly the same, unaccountable
to anyone, not directly elected by anyone at all. "
However, we know
of course that they must be accountable to someone, and appointed by someone,
and experience will tell us that that "someone" ultimately will be a
Rothschild and his co-horts.
Bukovksy
further predicts an economic collapse, and because of the Third World immigration,
so actively promoted by the European Commission "We will probably have, like
in the Soviet Union at the end, so much ethnic strife that the mind boggles."
We notice too, that Europol which Bukovksy has pegged as a KGB-on-steriods
will "police us on 32 kinds of crimes - two of which are particularly worrying,
one is called racism, another is called xenophobia.... Someone from the British
government told us that those who object to uncontrolled immigration from the
Third World will be regarded as racist and those who oppose further European integration
will be regarded as xenophobes."
He fears "a fully fledged Europol
staffed by former Stasi or Securitate officers". Similarly, the US Department
of Homeland Security, which is headed by Israeli citizen, and son of Mossad agents,
Cherthof; and his assistents former KGB agent General Yevgeni Primakov, and Markus
Wolfe, the ex-boss of the equally feared East German ''STASI'', who are part of
the team creating the National ID and the control of all the USA's citizens.
Former
Soviet Dissident Warns Of EU Dictatorship
Source: The Brussels Journal
Vladimir Bukovksy, the 63-year old former
Soviet dissident, fears that the European Union is on its way to becoming another
Soviet Union. In a speech he delivered in Brussels Mr Bukovsky called the EU a
"monster" that must be destroyed, the sooner the better, before it develops
into a fullfledged totalitarian state.
Mr Bukovsky paid a visit to the
European Parliament on Thursday at the invitation of Fidesz, the Hungarian Civic
Forum. Fidesz, a member of the European Christian Democrat group, had invited
the former Soviet dissident over from England, where he lives, on the occasion
of this year's 50th anniversary of the 1956 Hungarian Uprising.
After his
morning meeting with the Hungarians, Mr Bukovsky gave an afternoon speech in a
Polish restaurant in the Trier straat, opposite the European Parliament, where
he spoke at the invitation of the United Kingdom Independence Party, of which
he is a patron.
In his speech Mr Bukovsky referred to confidential documents
from secret Soviet files which he was allowed to read in 1992. These documents
confirm the existence of a "conspiracy" to turn the European Union into
a socialist organization. I attended the meeting and taped the speech. A transcript,
as well as the audio fragment (approx. 15 minutes) can be found below. I also
had a brief interview with Mr Bukovsky (4 minutes), a transcript and audio fragment
of which can also be found below. The interview about the European Union had to
be cut short because Mr Bukovsky had other engagements, but it brought back some
memories to me, as I had interviewed Vladimir Bukovsky twenty years ago, in 1986,
when the Soviet Union, the first monster that he so valiantly fought, was still
alive and thriving.
Mr Bukovsky was one of the heroes of the 20th century.
As a young man he exposed the use of psychiatric imprisonment against political
prisoners in the former USSR (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, 1917-1991)
and spent a total of twelve years (1964-1976), from his 22nd to his 34th year,
in Soviet jails, labour camps and psychiatric institutions. In 1976 the Soviets
expelled him to the West. In 1992 he was invited by the Russian government to
serve as an expert testifying at the trial conducted to determine whether the
Soviet Communist Party had been a criminal institution. To prepare for his testimony
Mr Bukovsky was granted access to a large number of documents from Soviet secret
archives. He is one of the few people ever to have seen these documents because
they are still classified. Using a small handheld scanner and a laptop computer,
however, he managed to copy many documents (some with high security clearance),
including KGB reports to the Soviet government. An
interview with Vladimir Bukovsky
Paul Belien: You were a very famous Soviet
dissident and now you are drawing a parallel between the European Union and the
Soviet Union. Can you explain this?
Vladimir Bukovsky: I am referrring to
structures, to certain ideologies being instilled, to the plans, the direction,
the inevitable expansion, the obliteration of nations, which was the purpose of
the Soviet Union. Most people do not understand this. They do not know it, but
we do because we were raised in the Soviet Union where we had to study the Soviet
ideology in school and at university. The ultimate purpose of the Soviet Union
was to create a new historic entity, the Soviet people, all around the globe.
The same is true in the EU today. They are trying to create a new people. They
call this people "Europeans", whatever that means.
According to
Communist doctrine as well as to many forms of Socialist thinking, the state,
the national state, is supposed to wither away. In Russia, however, the opposite
happened. Instead of withering away the Soviet state became a very powerful state,
but the nationalities were obliterated. But when the time of the Soviet collapse
came, these suppressed feelings of national identity came bouncing back and they
nearly destroyed the country. It was so frightening. PB:
Do you think the same thing can happen when the European Union collapses?
VB:
Absolutely, you can press a spring only that much, and the human psyche is very
resilient you know. You can press it, you can press it, but don't forget it is
still accumulating a power to rebound. It is like a spring and it always goes
to overshoot.
PB: But all these countries that joined the European Union did
so voluntarily.
VB: No, they did not. Look at Denmark which voted against
the Maastricht treaty twice. Look at Ireland [which voted against the Nice treaty].
Look at many other countries, they are under enormous pressure. It is almost blackmail.
Switzerland was forced to vote five times in a referendum. All five times they
have rejected it, but who knows what will happen the sixth time, the seventh time.
It is always the same thing. It is a trick for idiots. The people have to vote
in referendums until the people vote the way that is wanted. Then they have to
stop voting. Why stop? Let us continue voting. The European Union is what Americans
would call a shotgun marriage.
PB: What do you think young people should do
about the European Union? What should they insist on, to democratize the institution
or just abolish it?
VB: I think that the European Union, like the Soviet Union,
cannot be democratized. Gorbachev tried to democratize it and it blew up. This
kind of structures cannot be democratized.
PB: But we have a European Parliament
which is chosen by the people.
VB: The European Parliament is elected on the
basis of proportional representation, which is not true representation. And what
does it vote on? The percentage of fat in yoghurt, that kind of thing. It is ridiculous.
It is given the task of the Supreme Soviet. The average MP can speak for six minutes
per year in the Chamber. That is not a real parliament. Transcript
of Mr Bukovsky's Brussels speech
In 1992 I had unprecedented access to
Politburo and Central Committee secret documents which have been classified, and
still are even now, for 30 years. These documents show very clearly that the whole
idea of turning the European common market into a federal state was agreed between
the left-wing parties of Europe and Moscow as a joint project which [Soviet leader
Mikhail] Gorbachev in 1988-89 called our "common European home."
The
idea was very simple. It first came up in 1985-86, when the Italian Communists
visited Gorbachev, followed by the German Social-Democrats. They all complained
that the changes in the world, particularly after [British Prime Minister Margaret]
Thatcher introduced privatisation and economic liberalisation, were threatening
to wipe out the achievement (as they called it) of generations of Socialists and
Social-Democrats - threatening to reverse it completely. Therefore the only way
to withstand this onslaught of wild capitalism (as they called it) was to try
to introduce the same socialist goals in all countries at once.
[In SA
provitisation is rampant, with people like the Oppenheimers benefitting hugely,
just as the Russian Jewish Oligarchs benefitted from privitisation in the former
Soviet - DF] Prior to that, the left-wing parties and the Soviet Union had opposed
European integration very much because they perceived it as a means to block their
socialist goals. From 1985 onwards they completely changed their view. The Soviets
came to a conclusion and to an agreement with the left-wing parties that if they
worked together they could hijack the whole European project and turn it upside
down. Instead of an open market they would turn it into a federal state.
According
to the [secret Soviet] documents, 1985-86 is the turning point. I have published
most of these documents. You might even find them on the internet. But the conversations
they had are really eye opening. For the first time you understand that there
is a conspiracy - quite understandable for them, as they were trying to save their
political hides. In the East the Soviets needed a change of relations with Europe
because they were entering a protracted and very deep structural crisis; in the
West the left-wing parties were afraid of being wiped out and losing their influence
and prestige. So it was a conspiracy, quite openly made by them, agreed upon,
and worked out.
In January of 1989, for example, a delegation of the
Trilateral Commission came to see Gorbachev. It included [former Japanese Prime
Minister Yasuhiro] Nakasone, [former French President Valéry] Giscard d'Estaing,
[American banker David] Rockefeller and [former US Secretary of State Henry] Kissinger.
They had a very nice conversation where they tried to explain to Gorbachev that
Soviet Russia had to integrate into the financial institutions of the world, such
as Gatt, the IMF and the World Bank.
In the middle of it Giscard d'Estaing
suddenly takes the floor and says: "Mr President, I cannot tell you exactly
when it will happen - probably within 15 years - but Europe is going to be a federal
state and you have to prepare yourself for that. You have to work out with us,
and the European leaders, how you would react to that, how would you allow the
other Easteuropean countries to interact with it or how to become a part of it,
you have to be prepared."
This was January 1989, at a time when the
[1992] Maastricht treaty had not even been drafted. How the hell did Giscard d'Estaing
know what was going to happen in 15 years time? And surprise, surprise, how did
he become the author of the European constitution [in 2002-03]? A very good question.
It does smell of conspiracy, doesn't it?
Luckily for us the Soviet part of
this conspiracy collapsed earlier and it did not reach the point where Moscow
could influence the course of events. But the original idea was to have what they
called a convergency, whereby the Soviet Union would mellow somewhat and become
more social-democratic, while Western Europe would become social-democratic and
socialist. Then there will be convergency. The structures have to fit each other.
[This is why we see the North American Union and the African Union developing
the same structures. - DF] This is why the structures of the European Union were
initially built with the purpose of fitting into the Soviet structure. This is
why they are so similar in functioning and in structure.
It is no accident
that the European Parliament, for example, reminds me of the Supreme Soviet. It
looks like the Supreme Soviet because it was designed like it. Similary, when
you look at the European Commission it looks like the Politburo. I mean it does
so exactly, except for the fact that the Commission now has 25 members and the
Politburo usually had 13 or 15 members. Apart from that they are exactly the same,
unaccountable to anyone, not directly elected by anyone at all.
When
you look into all this bizarre activity of the European Union with its 80,000
pages of regulations it looks like Gosplan. We used to have an organisation which
was planning everything in the economy, to the last nut and bolt, five years in
advance. Exactly the same thing is happening in the EU. When you look at the type
of EU corruption, it is exactly the Soviet type of corruption, going from top
to bottom rather than going from bottom to top.
If you go through all
the structures and features of this emerging European monster you will notice
that it more and more resembles the Soviet Union. Of course, it is a milder version
of the Soviet Union. Please, do not misunderstand me. I am not saying that it
has a Gulag. It has no KGB - not yet - but I am very carefully watching such structures
as Europol for example. That really worries me a lot because this organisation
will probably have powers bigger than those of the KGB. They will have diplomatic
immunity. Can you imagine a KGB with diplomatic immunity? They will have to police
us on 32 kinds of crimes - two of which are particularly worrying, one is called
racism, another is called xenophobia. No criminal court on earth defines anything
like this as a crime [thi s is not entirely true, as Belgium already does so -
pb]. So it is a new crime, and we have already been warned. Someone from the British
government told us that those who object to uncontrolled immigration from the
Third World will be regarded as racist and those who oppose further European integration
will be regarded as xenophobes. I think Patricia Hewitt said this publicly.
Hence,
we have now been warned. Meanwhile they are introducing more and more ideology.
The Soviet Union used to be a state run by ideology. Today's ideology of the European
Union is social-democratic, statist, and a big part of it is also political correctness.
I watch very carefully how political correctness spreads and becomes an oppressive
ideology, not to mention the fact that they forbid smoking almost everywhere now.
Look at this persecution of people like the Swedish pastor who was persecuted
for several months because he said that the Bible does not approve homosexuality.
France passed the same law of hate speech concerning gays. Britain is passing
hate speech laws concerning race relations and now religious speech, and so on
and so forth. What you observe, taken into perspective, is a systematic introduction
of ideology which could later be enforced w ith oppressive measures.
Apparently
that is the whole purpose of Europol. Otherwise why do we need it? To me Europol
looks very suspicious. I watch very carefully who is persecuted for what and what
is happening, because that is one field in which I am an expert. I know how Gulags
spring up.
It looks like we are living in a period of rapid, systematic
and very consistent dismantlement of democracy. Look at this Legislative and Regulatory
Reform Bill. It makes ministers into legislators who can introduce new laws without
bothering to tell Parliament or anyone. My immediate reaction is why do we need
it? Britain survived two world wars, the war with Napoleon, the Spanish Armada,
not to mention the Cold War, when we were told at any moment we might have a nuclear
world war, without any need for introducing this kind legislation, without the
need for suspending our civil liberaties and introducing emergency powers. Why
do we need it right now? This can make a dictatorship out of your country in no
time. Today's situation is really grim. Major
political parties have been completely taken in by the new EU project. None of
them really opposes it. They have become very corrupt. Who is going to defend
our freedoms? It looks like we are heading towards some kind of collapse, some
kind of crisis. The most likely outcome is that there will be an economic collapse
in Europe, which in due time is bound to happen with this growth of expenses and
taxes. The inability to create a competitive environment, the overregulation of
the economy, the bureaucratisation, it is going to lead to economic collapse.
Particularly the introduction of the euro was a crazy idea. Currency is not supposed
to be political.
I have no doubt about it. There will be a collapse of the
European Union pretty much like the Soviet Union collapsed. But do not forget
that when these things collapse they leave such devastation that it takes a generation
to recover. Just think what will happen if it comes to an economic crisis. The
recrimination between nations will be huge. It might come to blows. Look to the
huge number of immigrants from Third World countries now living in Europe. This
was promoted by the European Union.
What will happen with them if there
is an economic collapse? We will probably have, like in the Soviet Union at the
end, so much ethnic strife that the mind boggles. In no other country were there
such ethnic tensions as in the Soviet Union, except probably in Yugoslavia. So
that is exactly what will happen here, too. We have to be prepared for that. This
huge edifice of bureaucracy is going to collapse on our heads.
This is why,
and I am very frank about it, the sooner we finish with the EU the better. The
sooner it collapses the less damage it will have done to us and to other countries.
But we have to be quick because the Eurocrats are moving very fast. It will be
difficult to defeat them. Today it is still simple. If one million people march
on Brussels today these guys will run away to the Bahamas. If tomorrow half of
the British population refuses to pay its taxes, nothing will happen and no-one
will go to jail. Today you can still do that. But I do not know what the situation
will be tomorrow with a fully fledged Europol staffed by former Stasi or Securitate
officers.
Anything may happen.
We are losing time. We have to defeat
them. We have to sit and think, work out a strategy in the shortest possible way
to achieve maximum effect. Otherwise it will be too late. So what should I say?
My conclusion is not optimistic. So far, despite the fact that we do have some
anti-EU forces in almost every country, it is not enough. We are losing and we
are wasting time. |
